The voting on the Thune Amendment will begin at 11:30. This will let us know who our real friends are in the Senate. I will update as the voting proceeds.
UPDATE: DiFi was heard on C-SPAN talking about how strict the California licensing process is. She would know, since she’s been through the process.
UPDATE: Thune is calling the Democrats out for using a VPC study which is largely crap. Some of the alleged killers did not have permits, and one of them who did was never charged because it was self-defense.
UPDATE: Barassso just whipped out his Wyoming concealed carry license on the floor of the Senate.
UPDATE: Coburn just said he would support the Dems in the states right argument if they’d agree to a bill on enumerated powers and restoring the 10th Amendment. Think there will be any takers?
UPDATE: I think the vote will be at noon. Someone said 11:30. Can’t remember where I saw that. High Noon on the Senate floor… ha!
UPDATE: Barbara Boxer claims she’s never seen the phones in her office ring off the hook. That sounds like a dare to California gun owners if you ask me.
UPDATE: Boxer just acknowledged DiFi’s personal experience with the California permitting process.
UPDATE: Webb and Warner were both yes votes. Both Virginia Democrats.
UPDATE: Indiana Republican Dick Lugar voted no. Evan Bayh, an Indiana Democrat, voted yes.
UPDATE: Democrat Bob Casey voted with us. Former Republican and now Democrat Arlen Specter voted against us.
UPDATE: Gillibrand is a no too, but I gave up on her a while ago. She’s switched sides.
UPDATE: Udall of Colorado voted yes. We might break majority. Holy crap, Bennett too!
UPDATE: Why did Specter vote no when a lot of fellow Democrats didn’t cave?  Webb & Warner were targeted with full page adds yesterday. Bennett hasn’t had to face the voters yet and will in 2010. Udall was never alll that reliable in the house. They voted yes. I think Specter made a mistake. A big mistake.
UPDATE: Last call for vote changes. Arlen? Come on man. We just picked up Pryor from AK.
UPDATE: Final vote 58-39. The bill is defeated, as it needed 60 votes under the rule. I told Bitter this morning I expected majority, but no passage. We have done better than I would have anticipated, and this was a major piece of pro-gun legislation that would have altered the landscape significantly.
UPDATE: Expect gloating from the anti-gunners, but we came very close. We will be back with this bill, or another like it. They can take that to the bank.
It will be shortly, I think theres another 14 minutes left before voting.
Watch for Durbin to play some games here in the waning minutes or once voting begins
Did Babs Boxer just say leave us alone??? On gun laws??? Really??? Bizzaro World…Totally…
As hysterical as some legislators are on this amendment, is it going to be a poison pill on the bill? Worse, are there enough votes to override a potential veto?
actually what Boxer said was interesting. She didn’t say people were calling against the amendment. She just that they were calling. If they were calling against it, she would have made that very clear.
Challenge accepted, Barbara….
No Chamber. The veto threat was to the F22 – which was stripped out yesterday. There is no veto threat to this, though Schumer had threatened a filibuster. The agreement which was reached was that both this amendment and the F22 would require 60 votes to attach – which presumably indicate sufficient support to overcome a filibuster and a veto.
I think they are voting now
Webb and Warner both voted for it!!!!
Got to love our Virginia Democrats!
I like the Republicans in the minority. The get alot of pro-gun legislation through when the aren’t the majority.
is there a site to follow the vote tally? cant find one..
yay for virginny
And Dick Lugar voted no and Evan Bayh voted yes.
So much for Republican’s being pro gun and Democrats being anti gun!!!
Gillibrand and Spector both voted no…
Funny, I was just talking about how Dick Lugar was pissing me off lately. It looks like Senator Bayh might be thinking about becoming President Bayh in 2016, which if so he’d probably have my support.
Blah!
failed
C-span just reported that it was rejected.
Two votes, Arlen Specter and Dick Lugar (both allegedly pro-gun) would have swung this. I’m actually quite furious at Sen. Lugar right now.
Sen. Nelson of Florida turned his back on us again. He voted against the citizens of Florida and instead voted for his party. One of his staffers told my wife that Nelson was voting against it because “it would cost too much money.” HUH?????
Is there anywhere we can go to see the results of who voted yes and no? I’m curious what senators Klobuchar and Franken voted although I’m assuming it was a resounding no.
Since it was an amendment and not a standalone bill, can it be offered for attachment to any later bill?
Take it to bank and tell ’em Sebastian sent ya!
I’m waiting for the vote breakdown now. As soon as it’s available, I’ll publish.
So why does it need 60 votes rather than 50? I know sometimes senators will try to ensure they have 60 votes before calling for a vote to block the chance of a filibuster, but I thought that in order to pass you just need 51 regardless of roadblocks like a filibuster.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=1&vote=00237
The Senate just posted the votes. Voinovich of Ohio was the other Republican defector.
I was happy to see Kay Hagan (D-NC) voted yes on this. I guess my fax this morning may have been read.
Akaka (D-HI), Nay
Alexander (R-TN), Yea
Barrasso (R-WY), Yea
Baucus (D-MT), Yea
Bayh (D-IN), Yea
Begich (D-AK), Yea
Bennet (D-CO), Yea
Bennett (R-UT), Yea
Bingaman (D-NM), Nay
Bond (R-MO), Yea
Boxer (D-CA), Nay
Brown (D-OH), Nay
Brownback (R-KS), Yea
Bunning (R-KY), Yea
Burr (R-NC), Yea
Burris (D-IL), Nay
Byrd (D-WV), Not Voting
Cantwell (D-WA), Nay
Cardin (D-MD), Nay
Carper (D-DE), Nay
Casey (D-PA), Yea
Chambliss (R-GA), Yea
Coburn (R-OK), Yea
Cochran (R-MS), Yea
Collins (R-ME), Yea
Conrad (D-ND), Yea
Corker (R-TN), Yea
Cornyn (R-TX), Yea
Crapo (R-ID), Yea
DeMint (R-SC), Yea
Dodd (D-CT), Nay
Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
Durbin (D-IL), Nay
Ensign (R-NV), Yea
Enzi (R-WY), Yea
Feingold (D-WI), Yea
Feinstein (D-CA), Nay
Franken (D-MN), Nay
Gillibrand (D-NY), Nay
Graham (R-SC), Yea
Grassley (R-IA), Yea
Gregg (R-NH), Yea
Hagan (D-NC), Yea
Harkin (D-IA), Nay
Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Inhofe (R-OK), Yea
Inouye (D-HI), Nay
Isakson (R-GA), Yea
Johanns (R-NE), Yea
Johnson (D-SD), Yea
Kaufman (D-DE), Nay
Kennedy (D-MA), Not Voting
Kerry (D-MA), Nay
Klobuchar (D-MN), Nay
Kohl (D-WI), Nay
Kyl (R-AZ), Yea
Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Nay
Leahy (D-VT), Nay
Levin (D-MI), Nay
Lieberman (ID-CT), Nay
Lincoln (D-AR), Yea
Lugar (R-IN), Nay
Martinez (R-FL), Yea
McCain (R-AZ), Yea
McCaskill (D-MO), Nay
McConnell (R-KY), Yea
Menendez (D-NJ), Nay
Merkley (D-OR), Nay
Mikulski (D-MD), Not Voting
Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
Murray (D-WA), Nay
Nelson (D-FL), Nay
Nelson (D-NE), Yea
Pryor (D-AR), Yea
Reed (D-RI), Nay
Reid (D-NV), Yea
Risch (R-ID), Yea
Roberts (R-KS), Yea
Rockefeller (D-WV), Nay
Sanders (I-VT), Nay
Schumer (D-NY), Nay
Sessions (R-AL), Yea
Shaheen (D-NH), Nay
Shelby (R-AL), Yea
Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Specter (D-PA), Nay
Stabenow (D-MI), Nay
Tester (D-MT), Yea
Thune (R-SD), Yea
Udall (D-CO), Yea
Udall (D-NM), Yea
Vitter (R-LA), Yea
Voinovich (R-OH), Nay
Warner (D-VA), Yea
Webb (D-VA), Yea
Whitehouse (D-RI), Nay
Wicker (R-MS), Yea
Wyden (D-OR), Nay
Well at least now I know where our new senator, Franken, stands and I don’t like the side.
Claire Mccskill voted no. Which will affect my decision for who I vote for in the next election and it won’t be her.
It would cost FL some revenue as no one would bother paying for a FL permit when a PA permit is cheaper and easier to obtain.
Like Caleb, I’m really mad at Lugar. I’ve been thinking for quite some time that he needs to come home.
I supported Bayh for Senate back when he first ran for it, ironically against the Republican former mayor of Ft. Wayne, Paul Helmke. Today proves the wisdom of that support. If Bayh ran for president, he would have a decent chance of getting my vote, especially if his Republican opponent was a RINO like Mit Romney.