Joan Peterson wants to know. If the shooter had been African-American, would you ask where the NAACP is? If he had been gay, would you ask where the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force is? If he had been Jewish, where B’nai B’rith is? Would Exxon Mobil have to explain themselves if he had filled a super soaker full of gasoline and burned 5 people to death? Would Ford have to explain if he drove his car into the crowd? Would you demand the ACLU make a statement explaining their role in defending the disgusting speech of Fred Phelps?
Why does the NRA need to have something to say about a whack job murdering people? Why isn’t “Anything other than prayers for the victims and their families at this time would be inappropriate,” appropriate in this situation? Careful. Your bigotry is showing. We don’t owe you a debate. Introduce your bills in Congress, and watch us make sure they go nowhere.
Amen.
Ugly, old, Jawin’ Sputterson would send the NRA to the gulag if she could. Gun bans are just a prelude to sending gun owners to prison or executing them, in the minds of radical gun ban leftistas. Gun control is an expression of hate on the part of the political left. They won’t rest until we’re in the ground. That’s why we can’t rest either.
The commie libs are big on peace, when they have the upper hand since they don’t want opposition, and they’re big on justice, their code word for war, when they are on the bottom and fighting to get on top. There is no getting along with such power-mad persons.
Oh, and where is the NRA?
The NRA, in its wisdom, is exercising discretion and restraint in this matter, as befits the gravity of the situation.
Such decorum of which, notorious blood dancer, Joanie Baloney, is incapable.
Actually, according to “Mother Jones”, the assassin is Jewish.
I’m pretty sure the shooter’s religion can safely be classified as “Bat Shintoo Crazitian”
I thought I had read where he was an athiest – at least in practice. Also heard the same thing on Hannity.
“Jewish” is an ethnicity with a religion attached to it, like Englishmen/Americans who were mainly Anglicans or their Puritan separatist spin-offs, or “Italian Catholics” or “Russian Orthodox”. Every tribe has its own religion to go with it… at least until contemporary times.
Madalyn Murray O’Hare (hyphenated marriage name) is one notable Jewish atheist that comes to mind. Here’s wiki’s page on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_atheism
Point is, it this is being used to stir up trouble on a national scale, using the same tired lies, fears, and yellow journalism used for a hundred years against us, so it’s our duty to deny ignorance by strict application of fact and logic. It’s the only peaceable means we have available to us and use it we will.
A better question is ‘where is the Brady Campaign on the shooting?” If they were genuinely interested in stopping gun violence, they would be focused only on pushing for better enforcement of existing state laws regarding mental health – that is where they could have done the most good, and where they might actually be able to do some good. Their focus now shows where their priorities are.
Well, the NRA might want to say something about this since they, and you gun owners are responsible for the lax gun laws in Arizona which played a key role in this slaughter.
Because of you, The NRA and gun owners, any lunatic who wants to get a gun can.
If Joan Peterson were in charge, that wouldn’t be the case. I think most of you would still be allowed to have your guns, but you’d be inconvienced a bit.
Well, the ACLU might want to say something about this since they, and you free speech advocates are responsible for what Fred Phelps will be doing in Arizona which plays a key role in the hate that fuels slaughter.
Because of you, The ACLU and free speech advocates, any lunatic who can say just about anything he wants.
If Joan Peterson were in charge, that wouldn’t be the case. I think most of you would still be allowed to speak, but you’d be inconvienced a bit before being able to do so.
And what gun law, Mike, would have prevented this, that would just “inconvenience me a bit?” Cho plotted his killing for a long time. He certainly had time to overcome Virginia’s one gun a month law.
Note that Mike has explicitly said he’d like to see New Jersey’s gun laws applied nationwide, so his definition of “inconvenienced a bit” is somewhat uncoupled from reality.
He probably would have been able to get a gun in New Jersey, though I will admit that you’d have to go as far as New Jersey to even have a prayer. But that’s not up for negotiation. New Jersey’s gun laws don’t treat owning a gun like a right. They treat it like a privilege.
MikeB302000,
What responsibility do you have for the mass murder in Arizona?
You admitted to owning firearms and according to your statements you no longer have those firearms, correct?
So, where are they?
Aren’t you the one calling for firearms to be traced back to the original owner and that person held responsible?
So — what is your share of the responsibility?
All the guns I’ve purchased or have obtained, I still have. Seems to me you would have more responsibility than I.
That’s right! Criminal!
Since MikeB is an admitted gun criminal, we can surely tie him to this loon in Arizona.
Sebastian, What happened to your wanting to scream if Bob mentioned that again? Now, you’re joining him??
The question, what gun law would have prevented a crime can never be answered with certainty. It’s only speculation. But, just about any system of screening for mentally ill people would have picked this guy up. A guy with his history should never have been able to pass a background check.
Then if we instituted some of my other ideas, like licensing and registration, you gun owners would be motivated to keep your guns to yourselves and stop letting them slip into the underworld, which by the way is another way that you’re responsible for the shit. Straw purchasing would be all but eliminated since each buyer of a gun would have to have possession of that gun at a later date when the registration is renewed, or when the jackbooted inspectors knock on the door, whichever comes first.
How’s all that sound?
Sebastian, What happened to your wanting to scream if Bob mentioned that again? Now, you’re joining him??
Sarcasm, Mike.
But, just about any system of screening for mentally ill people would have picked this guy up
We already do that. He was never committed or hospitalized. What would have picked this up?
Then if we instituted some of my other ideas, like licensing and registration, you gun owners would be motivated to keep your guns to yourselves and stop letting them slip into the underworld, which by the way is another way that you’re responsible for the shit.
OK… I’m stealing this from Tam.. but it’s applicable on this case.
Say this pen is a gun, and that piece of paper is your registration, and this piece of paper I’m holding up is my license. Now using only these two piece of paper, explain how that prevents me from shooting you?
Mike is presumably advocating mandatory psychiatric screenings prior to purchasing guns, much like (wait for it…) New Jersey recently proposed for carry permits.
Any resulting decreases in civilian gun ownership due to the intrusiveness and hassle of such a scheme would, presumably, be coincidental.
MikeB302000,
First, I never mentioned your criminal past in regards to your firearms in this comment thread.
Did you or did you not admit to legally owning firearms for ’15 years’?
So where are they Sparky?
Then if we instituted some of my other ideas, like licensing and registration, you gun owners would be motivated to keep your guns to yourselves and stop letting them slip into the underworld, which by the way is another way that you’re responsible for the shit.
I know where my firearms are. Where are your firearms?
Did you sell them to an individual?
If so, did you conduct a background check?
Did they get stolen from you? If so, then you — by your own logic — are responsible for not securing them well enough.
Or do you still own them while living in Italy? Do you have physical possession of them in Italy?
So MikeB302000 — where are the firearms you’ve admitted to owning?
Bob, Why do you keep asking that which I’ve told you numerous times I won’t answer? I know the answer to that. You’re an obsessed lunatic and you think you’re harming me or making me look bad by continually putting me in a position to not answer questions you’ve asked scores of times. Maybe it’s hundreds, even. Don’t you think that’s sick?
You’re probably right too, the guys who comment around here would tend to think badly of me for not responding. So, I guess you win.
And what a victory it is, huh? You can’t force me into submission on the real issues so you settle for what little successes there are between you and me.
[shrug] It’s a valid question, and is relevant to your obsessive repetition of your belief that lawful gun owners are “partially responsible” for the actions of murderous lunatics.
If you’re going to constantly insist that your opponents are culpable for other people’s crimes, then stomp your foot and refuse to address your own involvement in the phenomenon you’re ranting about, you have to expect to come out looking bad.
MikeB302000,
Hmm, to point out your hypocrisy perhaps; e.g. calling for gun owners to register their firearms, submit their homes to unannounced inspections by the government while demanding your own privacy ?
Or is it to point out that another name for your blog could be “Admitted Criminals for Gun Control”?
Could it be that I’m truly interested in knowing which laws are effective in preventing criminals in obtaining firearms and which laws are ineffective?
Isn’t that something you could address MikeB302000?
What I find sickening is your continual efforts to smear law abiding gun owners as part of the problems while not addressing your own culpability.
And once again Sparky, you show how narcissistic you are.
This isn’t about you, this is about the rights of the people and the laws advocated which would reduce or strip away those rights and the Constitutionality of the proposed laws.