I think if people are going to open carry, it’s a wise idea to use a quality holster with some retention features. This is why I think it’s a wise idea. Retention holsters aren’t perfect, but they at least give you some time to react to a grab.
UPDATE: This post had no content earlier. One of the risks of blogging ahead, because I don’t have access at work, is that I can’t log in to fix things. I put this post up hastily over lunch, and then didn’t manage to find out about it until later.
Is this some clever play on how the invisible post is hard to find? Or did you hit the button too soon?
I bet the invisible post becomes a post about that guy that was OCing and got kilt when some kid swiped his gun.
Yeah I read about that the other day. Two teenage punks jumped a guy OCing in at BP in Richmond,VA , stole his gun and then shot him (the police haven’t confirmed if he was shot by his own gun yet). The punks are also accused of killing another guy a few hours later, presumably with the same gun. Here is a link to the article:
http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/2011/dec/03/1/teen-homicide-suspects-had-felony-convictions-ar-1510369/
And another article that contains a quote from the OCers wife who says he normally carried concealed.
http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/2011/dec/01/tdmain01-second-teen-arrested-in-s-richmond-slayin-ar-1505438/
Yeah the guy probably should have had a retention holster (OTOH, maybe he did- the news didn’t give a description of the holster, suprise suprise), but the big question is why were these little felons out on the street already?
This is why I CC. I don’t want or need a mechanical holster to fail or lock when I most need it to work.
yeah, but then the story could just as easily be that he got shot cause he could not get to his weapon fast enough. there are advantages and disadvantages to both methods, and you need to be aware of all of them. I carry both ways, for different reasons and situations and either way i maintain an awareness of the people around me. its something you have to train and practice. sadly, from what i have read i think in this case the cause was not OC, but rather OCing while in condition white.
Same here, open top IWB holster is my general carry, sometimes a shoulder rig or pocket carry of a small caliber gun when needed.
I usually just jam my Glock in my sweatpants when I go clubbin’ yo!
“I usually just jam my Glock in my sweatpants when I go clubbin’ yo!”
Yo, that ain’t safe dawg. You could get butt goblins or herpies all over ya gat.
Seriously though, I think an IWB holster should be loose enough for the pistol to fall out if held upside down. My belt provides the tension needed to keep it in place should I decide to to handstands for some reason, and yet it allows me to draw without any hangups.
It is hard enough to get a grip and draw a gun from under a shirt in the split-second that reality requires. If your gun hangs up, chances are you’re already getting knocked the F@#K out before you can do anything about it.
Sorry … post made to wrong thread.
What should society do with a violent minor that steals a gun and uses it to murder somebody?
I think any answer beside execution is wrong.
Putting this juvenile in jail for 2 or 5 years is just delaying his next murder. If Toby Smith is ever free again, he’ll murder within 12 months.
Of course, if Tyler has shot Toby Smith, Tyler would be jailed and his life ruined.
When the state is given, or when it takes, the power to commit premeditated murder, the rule of law will die at the same time as the first execution.
What would this thug want done to another thug who killed one of his thug buddies? Execution of course. If we are to establish and maintain civilization we should hold ourselves to a higher standard than that of the common murdering thug.
I’m not usually in favor of killing kids, but a 16 year old with 7 felonies and two homicides? He’s an adult, or at least a grown-up. Adults (and grown-ups) pays their money and take their chances.
It was just the other week someone was relating the story of an ex-Secret Service guy or something at a shooting contest who was saying people who shoot themselves in the leg due to retention holsters are idiots. …and then he did the same thing.
Doesn’t seem like all that great an idea to have a push-button release where your trigger finger isn’t supposed to be until you’re ready to shoot.
I use a SERPA Blackhawk when I OC. I find that during the draw, my finger is naturally aligned with the safety and triggerguard after depressing the release button. I think that most of the issues with ND during drawing is by people not training properly with the holster, thinking that it’s just like their paddle holster. Like any new piece of gear, you need to learn to use it properly and then train with it. Remember the Third Rule: Keep your booger-hook off the bangswitch.