Something is Off Today

It’s just not right if I find myself agreeing with Mayor Mike. But I do so from a completely different position, so I guess that’s okay. Bloomberg is decidedly not getting on board with the NY Post in their call for the NYPD to boycott Glock in the wake of the Arizona shooting. To his credit, Bloomberg gives a good reason why that’s a bad idea if the paper actually wants to hurt the company:

“One of our newspapers has a campaign going to try to get the police department to ban the use of — one particular manufacturer’s guns,” Bloomberg said. “We think all that would do would be to get people to focus and buy more of that manufacturer’s guns.”

That’s already happening, but it is true that if a known gun control supporter starts using his office to institute some kind of boycott or ban, sales will continue to rise. At least Bloomberg paid attention to the Great Obama Gun Rush.

Polling

Most polls are showing poor for more gun laws among the population. Bloomberg, being quick to capitalize on this tragedy, already has a poll he’s touting showing folks support gun control. You can find the results here. Again, we have nicely loaded questions like:

“Ban the sale of high-capacity ammunition magazines”

Why not say ban the sale of ammunition magazines holding more than ten rounds?

“Track bulk purchases of assault rifles, which have become the weapon of choice of Mexican drug”

Why not “Track bulk purchases of semi-automatic rifles with detachable magazines.” That’s question is so loaded the crap is leaking out.

“Prohibit anyone convicted of a misdemeanor sex crime from purchasing guns”

How many people are thinking child molesters and people peddling kiddy porn? That’s a felony pretty much everywhere. I have a friend who was once arrested for being topless on what she thought was a secluded beach. So you want her prohibited now? Some people got arrested for streaking in the 70s too. What about a guy that got busted for mooning a cop in college? These are misdemeanor sex offenses.

“Require all people buying ammunition to pass a criminal background check”

This is a new one. Does anyone seriously still argue that MAIG isn’t a gun control group?

More on Common Ground

Joe notes some of the same disingenuousness I speculated about yesterday. You’d think they’d jump on true tit for tat, but they aren’t willing to give any ground back to us at all, even if it gets some of their current purported concerns addressed. Thirdpower also notes some more example of why there is no common ground to be found. Compromise requires each side willing to take seriously the other sides concerns, and talk about what they are willing to live with. The problem with the other side is their concern is that we have guns at all. With that being the case, our only smart course of action is to drive them into political extinction, take back the lost ground to the greatest extent possible, and give up nothing in return.

Time for Dick Lugar to Go

He’s calling for a new assault weapons ban. I believe, the first Republican Senator to come out in support of the idea. I hope Indiana tea party groups are thinking about a challenger. Two years will arrive quickly.

Common Ground in Transparency?

I’ve been thinking more lately about common ground in this debate, and why there’s none to be found. Chiefly I’ve been thinking about an idea that would, in theory, address a lot of concerns on both sides. But this, like many other ideas I’ve had, can probably be filed under politically infeasible. I’ve wondered why we don’t, instead of continually fighting over turning the ratchet up on down on who or who isn’t a prohibited person, we compromise, and put a bit more faith in social pressure instead of law?

Our opponents have shown that they are unable to think of owning a gun as a constitutional right, even if they’ve learned to parrot the saying post Heller. That’s apparent in the proposals that people should be prohibited from purchasing a gun because an army recruiter turned them down, or because they were kicked out of school, in response to the late tragedy. What’s next? Being a disgruntled recently fired employee? How is anything a right which is subject to such a whim?

It’s worth thinking about how this country survived for so many decades with no background checks at all. Years ago, before the advent of industrialization, people moved around far less. Most people probably never went beyond more than a few dozen miles or so from where they were born, and people knew a lot more about what their neighbors were up to before our mass migration during the industrial revolution. In short, the town gun maker or shopkeeper knew who not to sell guns to, because he likely knew everyone in town, and knew which individuals were trouble.

The revolution in transportation brought about by industrialization and urbanization eradicated that world. The chances that a gun dealer personally knows all his customers is practically nil. Combine that with modern taboos against discrimination in all forms, and you have a recipe for a situation where neither person in the transaction knows much about the other, but who nonetheless want to do business. This was the core situation the electronic background check was meant to try to solve, but to date we’ve tried to solve that only with black-and-white, one-size-fits-all laws, where the government is in charge of the decision making process. Personally, I put more faith individual people than I do in government.

I’ll concede for people prohibited by the current system, except the Lautenberg misdemeanors, we’ll keep that as is. Those folks will still be flagged as denied by the system. It will remain illegal to sell to those folks knowingly. But we’ll limit the scope of the outright prohibition to only that category. Beyond that we’ll provide the dealer with a complete five year history of arrests and convictions, and provided no disabling convictions, leave the decision up to him or her. Hell, in the name of transparency, let’s make it a smart phone or tablet app, available to everyone. All you need is a name, date of birth, and zip code, and you can run the same check a dealer does on anyone. Since we’re doing this, there’s little reason to restrict access based on state of residence at the federal level.

But our side will require immunity from civil suit for the decision, either way it goes. In other words, if the person is not prohibited, and the dealer or individual sells to them anyway, they can’t be sued for it. Likewise there can be no discrimination suit for turning a sale down. Otherwise it’s going to be an invitation to our opponents to attack us. In addition, even with immunity, our opponents will be quick to pounce the first time someone sells a gun to sumdood who was recently arrested of peeing behind a dumpster on his way home from a bar, but who later does something with the gun that ends up on the 6:00 news.

There’s something very attractive about the idea of replacing legal obligations with social pressure, but it requires everyone in the room to be adults. If there’s anything that the reaction to this recent tragedy has shown is that virtually no one in the mainstream media, or among our opponents, are capable of being adults, and accepting we can’t fix every problem with a new law and more government. I can promise you my model would work far more effectively at achieving the goals our opponents claim to desire, but they could never muster the trust required in their fellow citizens to accept it would work effectively. They’d quickly use the outliers as examples of how it didn’t work, and call for more laws. But under which model do you think more marginal characters would be denied access to firearms through lawful channels, while freeing up the law abiding to engage in less restricted commerce? It amazes me why they can’t see why there can’t be any common ground on this issue. Common ground to them is, “You agree with me!” Give and take is a foreign concept.

Astroturfing

Earlier in the day, Carl from Chicago alerted me to an NPR interview that was going on with Paul Helmke, Robert Levy, and some unknown person being touted as a gun rights blogger. Noting that it looks like her blog was just getting started, that immediately raised suspicion that something wasn’t going to pass the smell test. How did they pick out some unknown blogger who is just getting started while ignoring the whole of us? The answer, would obviously be this person is not an unknown blogger, but a false flag; someone flying under the banner of being pro-Second Amendment while in truth being no such thing. Google shows the truth:

So it would seem that Tracee Larson is previously associated with the false flag operation American Hunters and Shooters Association. This woman has no credibility as a pro-gun spokesman, and it’s quite likely the NPR interviewers are aware of that. It’s also likely that perhaps Helmke either got to pick his opponents here, or it was arranged to be  softball interview. What better people to use on the pro-gun side than Bob Levy, who endorses magazine restrictions, and Tracee Larson, who is an AHSA shill flying a false flag.

All so Paul could get away with saying police don’t use magazines that hold more than 10 rounds (which begs the question of why the ban exempt law enforcement), and conveniently gloss over the fact that this bill would ban large number of guns, both modern and antique. Levy doesn’t really know the issue, and the other woman is a shill for the anti-gunners. Great job NPR! I hope Congress defunds you shortly.

UPDATE: Paul also notes that the magazines banned by the 1994 AWB were as rare as hens teeth in 2004, before the ban expired. This is a complete and utter fabrication, as anyone here can tell you.

Taking The Magazine Ban Seriously

Sean notices that there doesn’t appear to be any great run on magazines. If McCarthy’s bill started to move, I’d probably stock up, but I have most of the magazines I need currently. One habit I got into with the AWB, is when you pick up a new gun that takes a new magazine, order five or so magazines for it. I suspect many people got in similar habits.