From a poorly translated (by Google) release:
In the preamble of the agreement also outlines a number of measures that the Minister of Justice & Safety will take. The Minister has decided that the practice of disciplines in which a marksman moves and there is a continuous timekeeping as part of the scoring process and where the marksman in different positions, either behind obstacles on targets shoot, no longer permitted . The Minister thus refers in particular to the practice of dynamic disciplines Trail Shooting Rifle and Pistol, as regulated by the NPSA and the practice of Dynamic Service Rifle, as regulated by the APS.
The KNSA Board expressed its deep disappointment at this decision. The KNSA Board believes that, under strict conditions of security and exclusivity for participants in these disciplines, they are not prohibited would have to be. Prolonged and frequent consultation on the Minister has unfortunately not in other thoughts, and he announced a few things in regulation will capture. The board of the KNSA has finally filed to this decision and will take responsibility in this matter.
I could really use someone who speaks Dutch to translate this properly. Trail Shooting seems to be watch the dutch call IPSC stages. This basically outlaws any dynamic shooting that’s timed. I think it’s funny that in some European nations, that things can be made illegal just because a bureaucrat doesn’t like it.
Then again, it honestly isn’t much better here these days.
I am told – by my dutch source, whom I am promptly sending a link to this post, and maybe he can elaborate – but another major measure is stepping down on the practice where people join
shooting clubs merely because they want a gun permit, to own a firearm but not shoot regularly in contests. From now on, only people who shoot regularly at shooting clubs and are active competitors will be eligible to own firearms – and, in turn, the Dutch shooter’s association will receive a monopoly on said clubs (only regularshooters who are members of clubs run by KNSA will be eligible for this permit).
The Germans are fighting the same threat. IPSC is heavily regulated by the goverment. If they get a whiff that you are shooting IPSC as “combat Training” you are violating the Law and going to jail.
Guess they won’t be sending a Biathlon Team to the next Winter Olympics, huh? Can’t have people with Rifles on their backs practicing for a shot at a Gold Medal in the woods outside Amsterdam, now can we?
This is exactly what I thought too. They have now foreclosed on most olympic shooting and they will never get a winter games again as all winter shooting sports are now prohibited by the rule.
My other Dutch-language contact has translated some more stuff for me, and here’s what he says:
Ah yes, this was in the news yesterday. It didn’t got a lot of attention, sadly, because shooting isn’t really popular in Holland. But anyways, from what I’ve heard it is a response to an incident in Alfen aan de Rijn that happened in April last year. A certain Tristan van der V killed seven people in a shopping mall with a rifle (an AR-15, an empty pistol that I don’t recognise, and a revolver of some kind) then shot himself in the head. Now that did gain a lot of attention in the news; especially because the weapon he had used was all legal, he had five weapon licences.
So now they want to change the weapon law here. I personally do not find that a good “solution” to anything; myself, I am a lefty but I’m also pretty “pro-gun”. But it’s important to know that this is not just because it is it’s a thorn in the side for some bureaucrat: it’s because something bad happened and people fear it will happen again. Unlikely, but possible.
I thinkt that is crucial information to add; if you don’t mind, I’ll add that in a post below.
Bah, I can’t seem to make the tags work.
Eh, you made them work well enough, we can figure out what you are saying and it was very helpful, thanks!
The real problem is that there’s no Preview button and you have less than 2.5 minutes to get it right after you hit Submit (it says 2.5 minutes and even counts down but it refuses changes some time before that has elapsed).
I get it right most of the time because I’ve been working with unforgiving computer languages since 1977 (sic; IBM 1130 punched card FORTRAN “IV” (really less than a IV, e.g. only numeric IFs)). You might want to practice HTML in a more forgiving environment, e.g. write or even better modify a simple file and view it in your browser, e.g on my Linux system file:///usr/blah blah. I normally wouldn’t suggest random people learn this but I think there’s a big enough payoff nowadays for most everyone knowing the basics of HTML that it’s worth it.
As say Uncle Says, Live free or, there!
So, if they could figure out how to do it without “continuous timekeeping”, then they could avoid this law. Intermittent timekeeping?
Hi all,
I am a dutch member of the NPSA (=IPSC)….
What is happening is very simple : last year a shooting incident took place where 6 people where killed. A mental ill person requested a firearm license in 2009 and got is. Parents, friends, etc. warned officials to do something… nothing happend. Result where 6 death persons. Who was the blame? You can guess : Police and Ministery didn’t do theire job… but lets blame eeeeehhhhh…. IPSC!
With this as base the Minister of Justice wants a ban on all “combat” a-like schooting disciplines. IPSC and DRS are the ones who will be banned 1st of May!
Why is totally unclear.
The incident is in no form related to IPSC or what the minister calls “combat”.
Beside that there was absolute not feedback, respons ot whathever kind ov communicatieon between IPSC adn Minister. Tuesday evenign a one-way conversation took place where the Minister announched the ban. No discussions, question….Period, IPSC is banned per 1st of May
ANYONE WHE CAN HELP…. PLEASE MAIL THE PRESEDENT OF THE DUTCH IPSC, MR. EDUARD RODIGAS AT PRESIDENT@IPSC.NL… with your comment why IPSC is NOT a “combat oriented” sport.
Any mail will be added to a dossier who will be discussed next week. IPSC is a world sport where a ban in the Netherlands is a signal to other EU ministeries, and perhaps the start of a ban on all firearms!
Help the NPSA to stop this ban!
Spread the word !
Even Cowboy shooting will be banned.
Wow this is crazy Saul Kirsch lives there. How will he react?
I’m NOT going to buy any dutch products EVER if this ban gets real! They can smoke marijuana and sell sex openly, but they can’t let people shoot IPSC! I feel sick!!!