More On Employers & Guns

Readers have made some really thoughtful and persuasive comments on my last post about the Texas bill that would force employers to allow employees to keep guns in their vehicles on company property. Persuasive to me because I do agree that it’s absolutely silly for a workplace to have a policy on guns with an aim to prevent workplace violence, but I’m afraid I still have to come out against these laws.

I think there’s a distinction to between discrimination because of someone’s race, ethnicity, national origin, or religion, which people largely are born as and have little control over, and discrimination based on specific behavior, even if that behavior is generally protected from interference by government.

It’s true that employers are preventing employees from exercising a right, but employers are generally free to do this. Employers may dictate how you dress, what time you come to work, what you may or may not say on behalf of the company, what you can or can’t say in the workplace or to customers. They may do things like forbidding you from talking about your political views with clients. They may prevent you from handing out religious leaflets, running prayer groups during business hours, etc. You could be fired for saying something negative about the CEO. These things are all ingfringing on some fundamental rights that, if we were talking governmental action, would be prohibited by the constitution.

But we’ve generally accepted that, with a few exceptions for race, gender, age, and a few other types of discrimination, that employee employer relationship are private relationships governed by rules and standards of behavior agreed to by both parties for their mutual benefit, and both parties are allowed to terminate that agreement when the benefit is no longer mutual. I accept the government meddling in this agreement, even for the case of racial discrimination, very reluctantly, and I am not inclined to accept more government interference in private relationships, especially one that comes down to a matter of behavior, and not characteristics that people are born with. I am a strong believer in the “employment at will” doctrine, where either party can terminate employment when they no longer find it beneficial.

As a believer in liberty, free from undue interference from government in private affairs, I can’t accept much in the way of restrictions placed on private relationships between employers and employees. If we can force employers to accept guns on their property, we can force them to accept speech that the company does not wish to accept, or force them to accommodate religious preferences, like cab drivers refusing to pick up fares with alcohol, or cashiers refusing to ring up pork products. I am very reluctant to accept more government interference into private relationships, even if it would benefit me personally.

I am not saying this lightly. I can assure you that no employer will ever search my car or my person. My car is my property, and I will never offer my consent for an employer to have access to it. I absolutely accept this might get me fired. It’s my right to refuse this. If my employer damages my property, he is liable. If he interferes with my person, he is liable. I have a right to refuse my employer interfering with my person or property, but he absolutely has a right to discontinue the relationship for my violation of that private covenant.

There are many things about employment I don’t like. I wish I could say whatever I want without consequence, wear my “Peace Through Superior Firepower” t-shirt in meetings with clients. I wish everyone I knew at work would be comfortable with me carrying a firearm on me, and talking about what my favorite carry guns are. But that’s not the case, and I accept I could be fired for both activities.

I don’t think government can help us out much in our private relationships with others. In that realm we’re stuck with using persuasion, and trying to educate people that gun owners, and people who lawfully carry guns for self-defense, aren’t irresponsible and dangerous whack jobs who are going to instigate workplace violence incidents. But bringing more government into the situation just opens the door to a lot of unpleasant restrictions on private behavior that I’m just not willing to accept.  I guess when it comes to this stuff, I’m a libertarian first, and a gun owner second.  I hope you all don’t find that too terribly disappointing.

Odd Tragedies

This rather odd tragedy caught my eye:

Minneapolis police are trying to find out how a 2-year-old boy allegedly ended up with a gun and shot his father. The 24-year-old man walked into Abbott Northwestern Hospital last Saturday with a gunshot wound to his arm. The man told police that his 2-year-old son had taken the gun from his mother’s purse and fired it at him.

I say odd because two year olds typically do not have the hand size or finger strength to manipulate and pull the trigger on a firearm. But a local gun range operator had this to say:

However, Joe Penaz, who teaches local gun safety classes at gun clubs and gun stores, said that it was possible for a small child to fire a gun if it was an automatic, which are as light as 7 ounces.

“Women seem to gravitate to small automatics,” he said. Penaz said he carries an automatic that requires only 16 ounces of pressure on the trigger to fire.

 

The facts in this case haven’t come out yet, and may never, but this brings up a number of things we should all remember:

  1. Lightweight triggers should be for competitive and range use only. A carry gun should have a minimum trigger pull weight of 5 lbs. You’re asking for trouble if you carry something with a hair trigger.
  2. You must be exceedingly careful with off-body carry. The best place for a gun to be is on your person, if it’s not, it should be unloaded and/or secured. Purse carry is often the only choice for women. There are purses out there that work well for this, but you must be careful not to leave the purse lying around. If this woman had a gun with a hair trigger loose in a purse, she’s an idiot at best.
  3. If you’re a gun dealer, instructor, or just plain shooter, do not talk to the press about stuff like this. You’re going to say something stupid that will be taken out of context. They will be looking for stuff to make us look bad. If you do talk to the press, I’d keep it to e-mail, where it’s easier to police yourself.

We’re fortunate that stuff like this is exceedingly rare, and generally holders of license to carry have been responsible. But every incident gets used by our opponents to show we’re all a bunch of reckless fools who can’t be trusted, and the press is only happy to help. We must be careful.

Shooting Hard Drives

While I’m occupied, I’ll leave you with my video where I take out my technological frustrations on a bunch of hard drives.

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Bitter got a picture of the undearly departed.

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The IBM hard drives have glass plates instead of aluminum, so it was like breaking several mirrors.   I figure I have at least a century of bad luck coming to me now.  Most hard drives these days are using glass platters, I think, because glass has a lower coefficient of expansion than most metals, so the magnetic tracks on the platter surface don’t move as greatly with the expanding platter.

Day 1 – Small Bore Day

I’ll post pictures of Texas when I get bored, and over this weekend. Not really many of Bitter, I’m sorry to say, because she blogs anonymously. So do I, but I don’t have to be as concerned about images as she does. But fear not readers, I would not deprive you of pictures of chicks and guns, so Carrie will fill in for Bitter.

We spent our first day in Texas scouting out some good shooting places. Carrie’s brother had told me I could expect long range shooting opportunities. About the most that could be reasonably done was 200 yards, due to lack of back stoppage. For small bore shooting I set up some logs to act as a stop for the bullets, mostly shooting at spinners and cans.

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Carrie shooting my 10/22, that I tricked out after the Assault Weapons Ban expired. The folding stock really makes it a menace to society, or makes it fit in the rifle case easier… one of the two. You’ll have to forgive our appearances. It was kind of muddy out, and we weren’t dressing for success.

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Loading up the 10/22 magazine. Bitter took this because she likes my Smith & Wesson 629 Classic. Unfortunately, it also shows how much work I have to do on the bike and hiking trail when the weather turns this spring. I have to wear the belt tight to hold up a pistol that heavy. I hate that holster too because it exposes the trigger. Any suggestions for a better holster for a 629? Any suggestions for losing weight? :)

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Shooting the 10/22, probably at the spinner targets. For bench we were shooting at about 75 meters. Standing, I have to get to about 25 to be able to hit the spinners consistently. You’ll notice something different about the 10/22 when I’m shooting it, as opposed to when Carrie is. Can you see what’s different?

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Bitter thought I should get a least one pic of myself shooting something that wasn’t an evil black rifle. I have to admit, I enjoyed shooting Carrie’s bolt action .22. I’ll have a lot of respect for anyone who can ID that rifle. I had never seen one, as they stopped making them long before I was born.

That night we tried to make a fire using the damp mesquite wood from the wood pile.  Despite being near desert, it had rained a lot the night before.  I’ll post the resulting video o’ blackness from that failed effort sometime later.

Gun Furniture

I don’t agree with the hippy sentiment on display here, but If you have a lot of junk in your safe, and not much in the way of furniture, there’s a British artist out there that might have some ideas to help you out.

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This one chair looks like it uses Kalashnikov receivers that are pretty much intact.  Believe it or not, I think importation of some of that furniture into the USA would be a violation of ATF regulations concerning importation of machine guns, as a receiver that was once part of a machine gun is regulated as such.  I believe the ATF requires machine gun receivers to be cut into several pieces in order to be considered demiled.

Texas Bill Undermining Property Rights

Via Jeff comes some new bills in Texas. The Castle Doctrine bill, which I support, is on its way to Rick Perry. The other bill has to do with forcing employers to allow concealed handguns onto their property which I do not support. Employers should have the power, as property owners, to regulate what is and what isn’t allowed on their property. I haven’t been pleased that the NRA has been pushing this stuff, because I don’t really appreciate them undermining property rights. Gun rights are important, but property rights are too, and I won’t support boosting one at the expense of the other.

To understand why employers do this, you have to get yourself inside the mind of the HR worms. Human Resources departments only really have a few functions, and one of their most important functions is to prevent the company from being sued, and most employers care a lot more about not being sued than they care about their employees lives. Some nut case comes in and starts shooting up the place? Well, that’s too bad, but they’ll be quick to drag that policy out to show they aren’t legally responsible for the incident, because, after all, they took reasonable steps to try to stop it. We know that’s total bunk, because it’s no one is going to bother to get a license to shoot his coworkers, but in the corporate world, much like in politics, it’s all about CYA, and the HR department, you can bet, isn’t going to care if you die because of workplace violence as long as they don’t get blamed for it.

So what can we do? I don’t think pissing all over the employer’s property rights, or more government regulation is the answer. Why don’t we address this through tort reform, so that companies aren’t liable for violent criminal acts committed by employees, or for negligence not related to one’s job duties? It seems to make sense to me that the employee himself should be held to account for these types of incidents rather than the employer. If a fellow employee hits my car in the parking lot, I wouldn’t sue the company would I? Why would the company be liable for a workplace shooting incident or if some dipshit employee has an ND in the bathroom? You could even tie this immunity to not having a policy that forbids license holders from carrying on the premises.

Think it would work? I don’t see why not. Sure, some companies won’t get it, but I much prefer using the carrot and stick approach, rather than flushing private property rights down the toilet.

UPDATE: Somehow I closed comments on this.  Didn’t mean to.  It’s open again.

Sitemeter

I notice Jeff is saying so-long to sitemeter.  I’m not sure about it myself.  I’ve been using GoStats longer, and I only find sitemeter useful for a few things.

But if any of you want to eliminate this problem, just block cookies from Specificclick.  Cookies aren’t really so much a security problem as a privacy problem, in that sites can use it to track your browsing habits.   Personally, I don’t really care if they know what I browse, so I don’t generally block cookies, but for those of you who are concerned, turning off cookies, and only explicitly allowing them for sites where they do useful things, will solve the problem for you.

Another New Blog

In addition to encouraging children and guns, I also figure it would be nice to highlight an Armed Canadian.

A little bit of history here: The United States has invaded Canada twice.  Both times we were forced to retreat.  You never know when someday we might once again decide we have it in for the crown, and I hope the Canadians will still be able to put up a good fight.  It’s no fun if it’s easy :)

The Twelve Mile Circle

A few months ago I came across this Wikipedia Article describing a portion of the border of Delaware and New Jersey:

Its existence dates from a deed to William Penn from the Duke of York on August 24, 1682, which granted Penn:

all that the Towne of Newcastle otherwise called Delaware and All that Tract of Land lying within the Compass or Circle of Twelve Miles about the same scituate lying and being upon the River Delaware in America And all Islands in the same River Delaware and the said River and Soyle thereof lying North of the Southermost part of the said Circle of Twelve Miles about the said Towne.

The fact that the circle extends into the Delaware River makes for a fairly unique territorial possession. Most territorial boundaries that follow watercourses split the water course between the two territories by one of two methods, either by the midpoint of the watercourse (the Grotian Method, after Hugo Grotius) or, more often, midpoint of the main flow channel, or thalweg. However, due to the text of the deed, within the Twelve-Mile Circle, all the Delaware River to the low-tide mark on the east (New Jersey) side is territory of the state of Delaware.

I’m not sure that type of water border is really that unusual though, because if I’m not mistaken, the entire portion of the Potomac River belongs to Maryland and Washington, D.C., with Virginia and later West Virginia not starting until the shore. The interesting thing here is there’s a small piece of land on the New Jersey side that actually belongs to Delaware:

The Twelve-Mile Circle

That’s not a mistake. I’ve seen it on other maps too. I’ve always thought it would be great fun to have a “shoot trap with a shotgun that’s illegal in New Jersey” party on that little bit of land, plant a Delaware flag and lay claim, and just generally annoy the hell out of the anti-gun ninnies in New Jersey by taking Delaware’s “weak” gun laws over to that side of the river, and having a fun time.

Of course, this could also increase an already tense situation:

Regardless of the Supreme Court’s admonition to the two states against further litigation on this subject, they were back before the court as late as November of 2005, when New Jersey’s desire to approve plans by BP to build a liquefied natural gas terminal along the New Jersey shore of the Delaware River fell afoul of Delaware’s Coastal Zone Act. The court on January 23, 2006 appointed a special master to study the border dispute, a process likely to take years. Meanwhile the Delaware House of Representatives considered a (symbolic) bill to call out the National Guard to safeguard the State’s interests, while New Jersey legislators made comments about the Battleship New Jersey, moored upriver from the site.

Hell, I’ll join the Delaware National Guard in that case. I’m pretty sure Delaware could take New Jersey in a gunfight ;)