The Debate

I’ve always been impressed with the quality of the commentary over at The Volokh Conspiracy. You have a few boneheads there, for sure, but for the most part, quality arguments are made. Volokh also seems to attract some more left leaning people who don’t approve of guns, so if you want to debate anti-gun people who are more reasonable, it’s a good place to go.

Today, Eugene’s post asking what anti-gunners exactly were proposing brought out quite a bit of good debate between the two sides, which included yours truly. Check it out.

College Kids Packing Heat?

SayUncle says things are going to change.  I think he’s right, and hopefully for the better.  I just don’t want to see it go overboard, and have colleges and universities turned into prisons like we’ve done with primary and secondary schools.

I also agree with him that most college kids can’t and shouldn’t carry firearms, but I do believe that people who are licensed by the state to do so ought to be permitted to do so on campuses of colleges and universities.  There are many states that prohibit this by law, and I do favor changing those laws.

Virginia, and also Pennsylvania, do it through university policy, rather than law.  While I don’t think those policies are sound, as applied to license holders, I don’t expect college and universities will change those policies any time soon.  I know people don’t want to risk being expelled, but I can promise you, if I go back to school, they can kiss my ass in regards to their policy.  Keep it concealed and keep your mouth shut.  If a student isn’t mature enough to keep other people from finding out, they are probably not mature enough to carry a firearm, and I won’t cry too hard if they get booted.  There is no good reason, with proper holster, attire, and attitude, that anyone ever needs to know that you’re carrying. Sure, if a deranged lunatic comes and starts shooting up campus, or an armed robber decides to prey on a few students, you might get caught.   But being expelled beats being dead or seriously injured, doesn’t it?

The Blogophere Weighs In

Two MSM editorials by some of our fellow bloggers:

  1. Prof. Glenn Reynolds in the New York Daily News.
  2. David Kopel in  The Wall Street Journal.

Also, be sure to check out Dave Kopel’s debate last night on the
Canadian show The Verdict.  I always love it when the anchor gets into the debate.   That’s objective reporting right there!  And of course, Canada’s gun controls work, just ask the poor souls who died at Dawson College.

Dealing With the Mentally Disturbed

Reading through some of the comments on a post at Dr. Helen’s, it got me thinking about whether the university dropped the ball here. I certainly think they did. But there’s always going to be difficulty in dealing with mentally disturbed people who are exhibiting warning signs.

We live in a free society that values a presumption of innocence; the idea that we cannot deprive people of their liberties without due process. To have someone committed against their will should require the state to meet a difficult burden. If you look at totalitarian systems, many of them used mental health as an instrument of oppression; institutionalizing dissidents and the like as mentally incompetent. There are good reasons to restrain the state in this area.

It seems, though, that this guy crossed into behavior that should have been taken seriously be school officials and reported to law enforcement. At the very least, he should have been expelled. Lighting fires, stalking, harassing, and vandalism are all crimes, and all serious matters. Arson is a felony, especially to occupied dwellings. Why did university officials sweep this under the rug?

But I’m reluctant to go so far as to say it should be easier to commit someone, or suggest that universities need to adopt “zero tolerance” policies akin to what primary and secondary schools have done. That would just be compounding on the tragedy. I think there were general law enforcement options that could have been taken here, and weren’t. The system failed, and tragedy struck.

And people wonder why I don’t want to relay on the same system for my own personal safety.

Creative Writings of a Killer

The Smoking Gun has the VA Tech killer’s one act play.   Check it out.  It’s a look inside a warped mind.   He thought this stuff was OK to share with people?   It’s horribly written and highly disturbing stuff.

Mayor of Nagasaki Gunned Down

Apparently there was a mob hit on the Mayor of Nagasaki, in Japan:

The shooting was rare in a country where handguns are strictly banned and only four politicians are known to have been killed since the Second World War.
Mayor Iccho Ito, 61, was shot twice in the back at point-blank range outside a train station Tuesday evening, Nagasaki police official Rumi Tsujimoto said.

One of the bullets struck the mayor’s heart and he went into cardiac arrest, according to Nagasaki University Hospital spokesman Kenzo Kusano. Kyodo News agency and national broadcaster NHK said Ito died of his wounds early Wednesday.

Firearms are effectively are illegal in Japan, with few exceptions. Yet we can see that criminals are still able to obtain them. Japan’s violent crime rate is very low, but that is more a reflection of Japanese culture than of Japanese law.  One can find cultures with more ubiquitous ownership of small arms that have similar rates of violent crime.  This example would seem to indicate, that criminals in Japan who desire guns can still get them.

Be sure to check out Dave Kopel’s article on gun control in Japan.

Common Pistols

The deranged killer at Virginia Tech, it turns out, had a Glock 9mm, no mention on whether it was the Model 17 or 19, but the 19 is a bit more common on the civilian market. I shoot and carry a Glock 19. The other was a Walther P22, which Ahab carries.

No doubt the media will be parroting VPC and Brady material touting these weapons as high powered killing machines, too dangerous to be used safely by ordinary schlobs like myself and Ahab. But really, the Glock 19 and 17 are probably the most ubiquitous police pistol around, and they are damned popular on the civilian market too. They aren’t particularly powerful or lethal, no pistol is. And the P22? Please. It’s a common target pistol.

UPDATE: Check out  Ahab’s coverage on the P22 and it’s capabilities at his blog, What Would John Wayne Do?

Among The Dead

Professor Liviu Librescu:

Librescu was among the thirty-three people killed in the Virginia Tech massacre on April 16, 2007. He was killed during a class in the Norris Hall Engineering Building. He was 76 years old.[6] Librescu held the door of his classroom shut while the gunman Cho Seung-hui was attempting to enter it. He was shot through the door but was able to prevent the gunman from entering the classroom until his students had escaped through the windows[7][8]. A number of Librescu’s students have called him a hero because of his actions, with one student, Asael Arad, saying that all the professor’s students “lived because of him.”[9]

In all tragedies come our heros.

The Media Roundup

SayUncle also has a roundup of the media mistakes during this whole thing.

I didn’t watch any of the TV media coverage, and I’ve been ignoring print media, because quite honestly, I can’t tolerate their coverage of events like this.

The media is just as culpable in these types of tragedies as the gun, which they are so eager to place blame on, because I think the media sensationalism it causes plays into the fantasies of these types of killers.  I’m very worried about copycats in the coming days.

But I don’t blame the media for the tragedy.   The 24 hour live news cycle is part of our society now, and we have a free press.  I totally accept the media’s right to cover these events.   I just with they’d respect my right to bear arms as much as I respect their freedom of press.  I don’t appreciate a lot of the scapegoating on guns, while the media refuses to acknowledge that the may have a role to play in these as well.

The Police Were Reasonable

I agree with Uncle that, given the data we have now, the police acted appropriately in not locking down the school after the first shooting.   They had sufficient reason to believe that this was an ordinary murder, and that the killer was at that point on the lamb.  I don’t think the police could have reasonable anticipated the killer would then start a mass killing spree.

The police are not supermen.   They are ordinary people who make ordinary mistakes, and have to act, quite often, on spotty information.  Once those folks were chained into the room, there wasn’t much the police could have done.  Even a SWAT team would have taken time to blow down the door.  As I said before, the only person to blame in this tragedy is the deranged lunatic.  It’s foolish to expect others to provide perfect safety.