Flashbang Bra Holster Review

After posting my initial thoughts on the Flashbang holster based on photos & a video, Looper Brand contacted me about reviewing one in person. I figured I would give it a try.

The First Trial – Solids & Retention
The night I found it on our doorstep, I didn’t have the energy or time for a full trial, but I wanted to try it out. We quickly found out that I needed to move up to the longest suede strap for the bras I normally buy. It’s not the end of the world, but it suddenly made me feel like the restrictions on carrying this piece would mean sacrificing the kind of bras a woman prefers to wear. (It is worth noting that Looper announced in the accompanying press release that they will make & sell you custom lengths for your bras should you need them.) The strap is reasonably easy to change, so that’s a plus for any woman who does choose this method and owns more than one style of bra.

I was wearing a ladies t-shirt in a solid color, and Sebastian said he could tell from some angles that something was there, but he could not tell that it was a gun. We also experimented with drawing it, and it was easier than I thought it would be. They describe the holster portion as “thermo-plastic molded clamshell designed to snap in place over the barrel/slide and trigger guard of many small .380 pistols and j-frame revolvers.” Snap indeed. It’s different than anything else I’ve drawn from, so I would suggest that any woman who buys it practices some dry runs.

On the note of the holster, we did have a bit of concern when our first several attempts to put the gun in the clamshell actually moved the slide. That’s just not a sound you really want to hear when you’re talking about a holster under your breasts. However, as I was told by the company, it’s not advised that you holster the gun while you’re wearing it on your bra. Put the gun in first, then attach the strap to your bra. So it’s not really a concern after all, but just something that initially caught our attention.
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Unarmed Teens vs. Unarmed Adults

I love when the desire to editorialize against guns is so strong that they actually contradict themselves. It makes me wonder if newspapers actually have anyone edit their editorials for content.

HB 1652 lets people who hold concealed-carry permits keep firearms locked in their vehicles while on a CareerTech campus. That includes people 21 or older who have completed a training course and undergone a cursory background check.

The problem is that most CareerTech students are teenagers and thus not eligible to carry concealed weapons. HB 1652 will mean that unarmed teens will rub shoulders on campus with armed adults, a potentially dangerous mix.

In Oklahoma, the Tulsa World is arguing against a bill that will force adults to lock legally carried firearms in their cars – therefore leaving them unarmed while on campus – by saying it’s too dangerous to have unarmed teens near these now unarmed adults. I didn’t realize that concealed carry holders who don’t even have guns on their person were so dangerous in society. It would be nice if they had some facts to back that up. Oh, but wait, they don’t like when facts don’t match their view:

Advocates of concealed carry and other laws aimed at arming more Oklahomans are quick to point out that those laws have not resulted in bloodbaths, as critics predicted they might. That might be true, but, on the other hand, there is no evidence that they have prevented public violence or made the citizenry more safe.

So it doesn’t matter that these laws haven’t caused any problems. It doesn’t matter that concealed carry license holders are likely more law-abiding than their teenage counterparts on these campuses. Reason and Logic have clearly left the building there in Tulsa.

Tactical Blackberry Case

Over at the Exurban League, they find some creative uses for an old blackberry case. The only problem with this method is that I actually have this appendage on my belt and it carries an iPhone. The other side, where I’d keep a reload, currently houses a Leatherman multi-tool, which I can’t really live without. But it’s an interesting idea I may have to consider.

Campus Carry Movement in The Atlantic

The author is not sympathetic to our cause, but doesn’t deny the momentum. I’m particularly amused by this:

If the bill in Texas becomes law, some professors there have said they plan to include a clause in syllabi stipulating that students are not be permitted to carry guns into their classroom — and then simply refuse to teach classes where students don’t assent.

There is also a bill to permit open-carry pending in the legislature, but if that doesn’t pass, how are you going to know? I seriously don’t think these folks consider they run into people carrying every day and never realize it. Back to the writer:

When you think of it like that: giving guns to young students largely interested in sex and booze, I’d wager it seems less of a genius idea.

Who’s talking about giving guns to young students? No one is giving away guns here. We’re talking about people who have licenses to carry everywhere else in public. It’s amazing to me how well our opponents frame their rhetoric. They speak of us as being fear mongers, but the truth is they are the greatest fear mongers of all, buy planting thoughts in the public mind that evoke images of Wayne LaPierre handing out Glocks as kids go into the lecture hall. This is ludicrous. It’s almost amazing this is even an issue given the very small number of people who are ever going to be toting guns to class.

 

Bob Mensch Guilty in Summary Charge

State Senator Mensch was found guilty in a Berks County court on a citation for disorderly conduct for allegedly flashing a gun at another motorist on I-78. Mensch denies that he ever displayed the firearm.

From what it sounds like, Mensch took his firearm out when the other motorist followed him off the exit and to a gas station. It seems reasonable to me that the other motorist could have seen it. But I do not believe, unless you point or threaten with a firearm (which can also be a more serious charge), that this amounts to disorderly conduct. Given what Mensch described in the trial, his actions do not seem to me to be unreasonable, presuming he is speaking the truth when he says he did not flash the gun in a threatening manner.

Mensch says he will appeal. I think he should. Having a gun where someone can see it obviously is not a crime. It should need to be proved beyond a reasonable doubt that Mensch displayed the gun in a threatening manner.

One lesson in all this is that it’s never a wise idea to stop in a road rage scenario. Your vehicle is the best defense you have. If you’re followed off an exit, keep going. If you’re certain the road raging person is following you, call the police. The gun is a last resort in these scenarios.

UPDATE: More here. Seems the other driver claimed Mensch had the gun in his lap. Mensch claims it was a cell phone. The other driver called 911 to report another motorist with a gun. I still say if a gun isn’t displayed in a threatening manner, you don’t have a case of disorderly conduct.

Flashbang Bra Holster: A Chick’s Perspective

Steve from the Firearm Blog wants to know, as a non-bra wearer, what women might think about a bra holster. I watched the video with an open mind, but watching it through a lens of “is this something that a woman could really wear every day (or even semi-regularly) and be somewhat comfortable” isn’t quite the same as trying to show how fast some chick on a range can flash the camera and pull out a gun.

  1. I immediately noticed that something was off about her bra under that shirt.  Sure, she’s wearing a somewhat form-fitting top, but it’s not that tight.  While it’s not printing as obviously as some belt carry options, it may still attract unwanted attention in the form of men, women, and possibly children staring to figure out what, exactly, is wrong with a woman’s breasts.  So they won’t likely figure out it’s a gun, but it’s still people staring at your chest and knowing something is off, that’s not attention most women I know would enjoy.
  2. The holster is restricted to women with boobs.  That’s not the end of a world for products, as a number of carry options for the waist are often restricted to women with hips or women without hips.  Everyone is built differently, and that’s fine.  But, it’s a reasonable question on how well it will fit a woman with the average bra size.  (Last time I checked, it was like a 36C or somewhere in there.) Their ebay listing says they have them for sizes as small as 32B, but I have my doubts about what a B-cup can realistically conceal.
  3. It doesn’t look like it will fit every bra.  This may mean that a woman has to go out and buy all new bras.  That isn’t cheap.  Not to mention, some women find a bra that’s comfortable and stick with it.  Granted, carrying on a belt may have many of the same challenges, but rarely are people as picky about their belt fit as women are about good bra fit.
  4. The gun is going to poke some seriously uncomfortable places if you have to move around a lot or even bend down.  Yes, this can be an issue with other on-body carry options, but I think it’s worth pointing out that this holster isn’t anything special.  It’s the same problems, just in a very different area where tolerance for discomfort or adjustment may not be as high.
  5. They illustrate this on a mannequin that doesn’t have squishy breasts and on a bra with no underwire.  Considering the photo shows the barrel of the gun tucked into the left cup, this is a potential problem.  One, if it sticks under there too far, ouch.  Two, more than 2/3 of women wear underwire bras.  Even if it is comfortable, a woman will probably have to shape the wires of her bra around it.  It is also likely to push the ends of the underwire into unnatural and highly “pokey” positions. Ouch.
  6. The underwire issue takes us back to the problem in point 1, visibility.  If the gun is pushing an entire cup out from your body, it’s more likely to be visible that you have something under there.  I didn’t study the video closely enough to see if their trial chick had on an underwire or not.  I’ll leave that to you men.
  7. Lord help you if you have an accidental discharge.  Given the direction that the gun faces, if the holster isn’t incredibly tough, that would be mighty unpleasant.

Two RTC Bills in Wisconsin

Hearings are being scheduled for two competing right-to-carry bills in the Wisconsin legislature, one which would make the state shall-issue with pretty similar requirements to Pennsylvania (e.g. no training requirement). The other bill would allow carrying concealed without a license.

PA Senator In Trouble for Gun Incident

Sounds like a he said, she said incident. I myself have always worried about the possibility of some road raging drama queen getting pissed at something I did on the highway and reporting me flashing a gun when I did no such thing. Because the police will then pull you over, and will find a gun. Senator Mensch said:

He said he felt state police jumped to conclusions and weren’t interested in his side of the story. Mensch said that he didn’t want to talk about the details of the case before a hearing. However, after the two had contact with one another at a gas station, Mensch said he drove away, and the other driver stayed at the gas station.

Keep in mind this is how they are treating a sitting State Senator. Imagine how they’d treat you? There is no charge of brandishing a firearm in Pennsylvania. I believe it can be simple assault, but in this case they are charging disorderly conduct. VPC seems to have already found him guilty, but I’m going to bet Mensch is found not guilty by an actual judge.

Guns and Restaurants

I’m amazed by the number of op-eds, any time this issue comes up, that says alcohol and guns don’t mix, and then proceed to mention that the bills prohibit license holders from actually drinking. No one really disagrees with that, it’s just that you can’t legislate responsibility. The people likely to ignore the prohibition on drinking are the same people likely to ignore the prohibitions on taking guns into restaurants in the first place.

For those of you heading to Pittsburgh next week, there’s no law about carrying a firearm into restaurants or bars in PA. It’s perfectly legal. We don’t even have a law that says you can’t drink while carrying. But keep in mind, especially for PA residents, being caught with a gun while intoxicated is generally grounds for having your LCTF revoked. How much do you want to bet NRA members manage to pull off another successful convention without having everyone get drunk and shoot up the place?

Standing Up for Gun Rights

On April 10, I posted about several members of the Pennsylvania delegation who weren’t supporting a gun rights bill in Congress, contrary to the fact that it’s on NRA’s agenda. Four of those members had the NRA-PVF endorsement, and two more of them wanted it against pro-gun incumbents (and will presumably want it again).

Fantastic reader Adam Z. shot me an email about some things and noted that Rep. Mike Fitzpatrick was listed as a sponsor even though I had posted that he was not one. Huh? That’s something I totally would have noticed. How the hell did I miss that? So it’s off to Thomas for me to look into the problem.

RESULTS!

Following the post, Rep. Fitzpatrick, along with Reps. Lou Barletta & Tom Marino, signed on as sponsors.

No, I’m not trying to claim actual credit for these new sponsors. We know that NRA sent out alerts to their members asking them to get board with recruiting new sponsors. On our front, we blogged about the people who weren’t sponsoring it on here, and we covered it on PAGunRights. The tweet from @PAGunRights targeting those who had not yet sponsored was retweeted a half dozen times or so. We also know that the exact SIH post was viewed by House of Representative servers 18 times between the post date & when the last of those three became a sponsor. (For PAGunRights, which did not highlight those who had not signed on, it was a handful of hits as well.)

While NRA’s emails can create a much larger firestorm for any Congressional office, it is good to look at these numbers and know that Congressional staff know we’re watching closely, and we’re going to talk about those who let us down and praise those who help us.