Primary Involvement?

Jacob picks up on a statement by Chris Cox:

“Historically, we have not gotten involved in primaries. We traditionally wait until after the conventions,” said Chris Cox, head lobbyist for the NRA. “That being said, given the candidates and the process and the front-loading of the primaries, it is a possibility that we could get involved in one of these presidential primaries.”

And comments:

What I would do in NRAs case would be a targeted mailing in certain states stating Fred Thompson and Bill Richardson are the prefered candidates in each party’s primary. No need to make up separate mailers, just list both guys on a single postcard to keep costs down. I wouldn’t give anyone an endorsement until after the primary.

I would consider only half of that.  I think it could be smart for NRA to become involved in the Democratic primary, because Bill Richardson has been a real friend to gun owners in the past, and all the other serious contenders are absolutely no friends of ours.  If you can give Bill enough of a boost to where he’s a serious threat to the other two candidates, you force Hillary and Obama to spend more money defeating their primary opponents.  It also will hold the Republican candidates feet to the fire, with the prospects a pro-gun democrat winning the endorsement in the general election.   It wouldn’t make much sense, in my opinion, to get involved if Richardson is a lost cause.

I don’t think under any circumstance it makes sense to back a candidate in the Republican primary.  If you pick a losing candidate, the eventual nominee is going to hold it against you that you actively helped his opponent.  In the general election, it might come down to two candidates hating you, whereas if you had stayed out, you might have been able to work with the eventual nominee, even if he turned out to be less than ideal.

I agree with Jacob that it makes sense to get involved in primaries because it’s easier to affect change in them, but one must use caution.  When you have multiple candidates vying for NRA’s affections, as is happening now in the current Republican primary, it wouldn’t be smart politics, in my view, to endorse one of them.  If you have a pro-gun challenger sparring with all anti-gun candidates, then it might make sense.

Giuliani’s Pass

Clayton comments:

My guess is that the reason Giuliani has been getting a pass from NRA leadership is:

1. They perceive him as someone that can defeat Clinton in the general election.

2. He’s not a social conservative. I get the impression from who NRA leadership favors that they are libertarian, not conservative.

Maybe Giuliani has really changed his mind on this. But call me skeptical.

Well, at this point, it wouldn’t really make good political sense to snub Giuliani, Romney, or really anyone. It’s very early in the game, and the winner is far from clear. It would be unwise to alienate the candidate that walks away with the nomination. Giuliani is certainly, from a gun rights point of view, far far from a desirable candidate, but if he wins, that’s who we have to work with, if Hillary or Obama is the nominee.

If by some miracle Bill Richardson wins the nomination, then Richardson should get the endorsement, because he’s more pro-gun than any of them. But it’s probably going to be Hillary. Given that, if I were NRA leadership, I’d be very prejudiced to endorsing Giuliani for 2008, but would hold out the possibility, if we like how he treats us on our issues, of an endorsement in 2012.  In 2008, I would agree that we’ll help tar The Hildabeast, and make it clear to our membership what Hillary’s record is on our issue.  In short, I’d make people hate me by playing politics ;)

I agree with Clayton that I doubt Rudy has had a real change of heart. But I’m not sure that matters. What matter is that he understands where his bread gets buttered. It’s not ideal. As I mentioned yesterday, it helps to have a real friend in the White House, but absent that, a guy you can deal with is better than Hillary.

Giuliani Endorsement?

Greg says it would make him quit NRA over it.   I also think it would be a bad idea, but temper that with the fact that a Hillary Clinton or Obama would be an utter disaster.  If Rudy wants to put more originalist thinking justices on The Court, I might be willing to overlook his past if he’s running against The Hildabeast or Obama.   Run him against Richardson though, and Richardson ought to get the endorsement hands down.

RICO Gangs

Uncle is talking about a new senate bill GOA is alerting on that shows, once again, that GOA doesn’t know how to read legislation. Now, I’m absolutely no fan of this bill that Congress wants to pass here, mostly because I think gang activity is generally not a federal matter. But here’s what GOA is claiming about this bill:

At issue is section 215 of the bill. In essence, your family, gun shop employees, or even church bowling league would be considered an organized “gang” and subjected to draconian prison sentences if you did any of a number of things, such as:

  • having a gun (loaded OR unloaded) in your glovebox as you — inevitably — drive within 1,000 feet of a school, even if you didn’t know the school was there;
  • selling a gun out of your store while being entrapped in a Bloomberg-style “sting” operation;
  • teaching your son to shoot without giving him a written letter of permission (which must be on his actual person), even if you are standing right behind him at the range the whole time; or,
  • simply being one the 83,000 veterans whose names were illegally added to the Brady system by President Clinton (or, presumably, one of the thousands more who will be on the list if the current Veterans Disarmament bill passes), if you continued to possess a firearm.

But does it define what a gang is? Why, yes, it does:

(1) CRIMINAL STREET GANG- The term `criminal street gang’ means a formal or informal group, organization, or association of 5 or more individuals–

    (A) each of whom has committed at least 1 gang crime; and
    (B) who collectively commit 3 or more gang crimes (not less than 1 of which is a serious violent felony), 3 or more in separate criminal episodes (not less than 1 of which occurs after the date of enactment of the Gang Abatement and Prevention Act of 2007, and the last of which occurs not later than 5 years after the commission of a prior gang crime (excluding any time of imprisonment for that individual)).

But what is a gang crime? Surely that’s rife for abuse right?

(2) GANG CRIME- The term `gang crime’ means an offense under or State Federal law punishable by imprisonment for more than 1 year, or a felony offense under State law that is punishable by a term of imprisonment of 5 years or more in any of the following categories:

In short, if you’re not already a prohibited person, you don’t have to worry about this bill. Like I said, I have federalism concerns with this, but I don’t have concern this is going to ensnare law abiding gun owners unjustly. Once again, GOA is scaring gun owners by misrepresenting legislation.

Schmoozing With the Triangle of Death

I had a productive second day.  Bloggers are being treated very well, and very seriously by NRA.  The Public Policy meeting spent a lot of time in executive committee, so I spent a lot of time outside.  I talked a bit with Amy Lovato, who is Jeff Cooper’s granddaughter, while we were locked out of the meeting.  Also got to talk a bit with a new NRA member that Sandy Froman invited along as a guest; hopefully soon to be Professor Lee.  He seemed to have some interest in reaching out to the Asian community, and starting a campus shooting club when he ended up getting hired as a professor.   People who are that enthusiastic about the issue are always an asset, as are people who wear Springfield XDs under their suit jacket :)

Lunch table today was Congressman Bob Barr, who was seated away from me, unfortunatly, so I didn’t get a chance to talk to him much.  I also managed to speak with Timothy Pawol, who is one of the Pennsylvania board members.  You really can’t get two Pennsylvania gun guys together without the subject of Ed Rendell being a shit come up, and for good reason.   We talked about the recent PICS shutdown, which is making me more convinced I need to look into that issue in greater depth.   It was a good contact to make.

I would encourage any NRA member who doubts the organization’s commitment to the cause, or thinks they are selling us out to come to an annual meeting, or a board meeting, and sit in, and talk to some of the people who do this stuff.  The NRA is not perfect.  They are a large organization that can’t be turned on a dime, and there’s no such things as perfection in politics.  But the people in the NRA, both board and staff, give up a lot of their time and money for the cause.  I don’t think anyone would do this if they weren’t committed.

Day Two

I’m continuing my attendance of the NRA board meeting into the afternoon, at which time I pick up Bitter, then drive back to Pennsylvania.  I’ll comment more later.   Sorry for the sparse posting, but I do think it’s important for bloggers to have a voice within NRA, and for NRA to be able to communicate with us and our community.

Just so you know, board member committee meetings are open to all NRA members.  Anyone can come listen in.  Executive committee or executive sessions are restricted only to the board, but the majority of the stuff going on here is accessible by any NRA member.  Anyone who wants to come see how the organization works should plan to attend one.

Interesting Day

So today I attended the legislative committee session. Much of what was talked about was in regards to HR2640, and some matters that are appearing in the states like the “victimized twice” laws, forcing the reporting of stolen firearms. I was also quite pleased that the NRA is realizing that they need to have a better presence in the new media, and want to work more closely with bloggers.

At lunch, I found myself sitting next to Congressman Harold Volkmer. Yes, that Congressman Volkmer. Nice guy, and considering I regularly take advantage of the law he spearheaded, which consists of allowing gun shows, and safe transport provisions, it was quite a thrill to talk to him over lunch.

We joined up with Dave Kopel, Dave Hardy, and a few other folks for drinks afterward. Nice time. I got to meet Legal Bitch, the newest bitch girl. She’s very smart, and very cute, so be sure to check over there regularly for her posts.

I also met up with Tom King, of the NYSRPA.  Tom is a good guy, and I feel bad for being kind of hard on him as a new blogger.  Apparently our friend Jadegold sent him a rather horrid e-mail.  While I have no plans to ban Jadegold, as long as he’s reasonable here, I understand now why Tom did it.

How It Went

Despite my fear of public speaking, I managed to force myself to stand up and have my say at our club’s board meeting.   Sadly, I don’t think I had much impact, because the board indicated that the ballot measure to end our club’s 100% NRA participation was a done deal.  I urged the board to allow NRA to send someone up to talk to us.  A few indicated NRA just wanted to talk about HR2640, and it wasn’t only about HR2640.  They also claim NRA didn’t want to talk to membership, but only a few select board members.   That’s the the impression I got from NRA, but several board members also confirmed this was the case.

So in short, the vote will go ahead.  NRA will not be talking to us, it seems.  There was, at least, one other board member who I managed to talk to.  I have two people who are sympathetic to my cause I didn’t have before.