Nutter to Me: “You’re wrong”

KYW actually read my question on the air this morning at about 8:36AM.  I was in my car on my way to work.  His response basically was that I was incorrect.  That his laws were not, in fact, violating the constitution, and that he respects the second amendment.  His laws, you see, are only meant to go after criminals.  They aren’t meant to target law abiding gun owners.  And what reason do law abiding gun owners have to own an assault weapon anyway?   Well, Mr. Mayor, under your law, all the following are assault weapons:

Now, Mr. Mayor, do you care to try, once again, to tell me I’m wrong?  The city ordinances do affect sport shooters Mr. Mayor.  Either you’re a fool, because you believe what Joe Grace of CeaseFire PA, and your advisors are telling you, without asking real experts, or you are dishonest for deliberately misleading the citizens of Philadelphia and of this Commonwealth.  Either way, it doesn’t look good.

I was happy that the reporter asked a follow up question, from a questioner asking how he expected gun control to be effective in Philadelphia when it hasn’t been effective in Washington DC at reducing crime.  The Mayor doged that question by suggesting that things in DC were “complicated” and that it wasn’t a simple problem.  He then went to provide the example of New York City, which has what he called “more reasonable” gun laws (New York law amounts to near total prohibition, BTW, except for the rich and famous) and has managed to lower its crime rate.   The reporter fired back at him, again using part of this reader’s question which stated that New York City’s gun laws were decades old, and crime only recently began to drop there.   Mayor Nutter dodged again, suggesting the questioner come live in Philadelphia for a bit, and then see if he feels the same way about gun control.   Well, I can be pretty sure if I had to live there, I would cling to my guns like the most bitter and religious person Barack Obama could possibly imagine!

UPDATE: I’ve obtained a copy of the segment for you.

UPDATE: I originally had an .17HMR rifle and a shotgun in there, but upon further review of the law, neither of those firearms qualified.  I have replaced them with better examples.

Two of Nutter’s Laws Struct Down

Apparently Judge Greenspan ruled that two of the laws were illegal:

A Philadelphia judge yesterday sided with the National Rifle Association and struck down city ordinances banning assault weapons and limiting handgun purchases to one a month.

In a blow to the city’s attempt to write its own gun laws, Common Pleas Court Judge Jane Cutler Greenspan ruled that Philadelphia should be permanently prevented from enforcing the laws that City Council passed unanimously in April.

But Greenspan gave city officials a consolation prize by declining to strike down three other laws on procedural grounds, indicating that the NRA and other plaintiffs did not have legal standing to challenge those laws.

The laws that remain standing, for now:

The three laws Greenspan allowed to stand permit judges to remove guns from people declared to be a risk to themselves or others, prevent people subject to protection-from-abuse orders from owning guns, and require gun owners to report the loss or theft of a gun to police within 24 hours.

Oliver said the city would immediately begin to enforce the law requiring gun owners to report lost guns. He said the other two laws would require enforcement regulations.

Shields said it was only a matter of time, as the city attempted to enforce the laws, until the NRA would locate aggrieved parties who could act as plaintiffs.

This fight will continue.  Note that the judge didn’t allow the three laws to stand on merit, she allowed them to stand because the plantiffs in the case didn’t have standing to challenge them.  Standing is often used by courts when they want to dodge issues.  I’m not familiar with Pennsylvania’s standing doctrines, but I would suggest that the ruling makes sense by legal reasoning, even if we don’t particularly like the outcome.

Ask Mayor Squidward

Our local news radio station, KYW 1060AM is hosting a Q&A session tomorrow with Mayor Nutter, and they were nice enough to put a form online so we can submit questions.   Here’s mine:

Mr. Mayor, when you took office, you swore an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States and of this Commonwealth.  By restricting the rights of Philadelphians to own firearms for sport and protection, aren’t you violating that oath?

Go ask a question.  Can’t hurt.  Keep it short and polite, but tough.  I don’t expect they’ll ask the Mayor any pro-gun oriented questions, but let the media know that gun owners are out there.  Another one to think about asking him would be what an assault weapon is.  If you’re from the Philadelphia area, definitely make sure to get a question in.

The Boy Scout Lawsuit

Good editorial in The Daily News talking about the lawsuit the Boy Scouts have filed against the City of Philadelphia, who are trying to evict them because they exclude gays.  The Inqurer has run other editorials denouncing the Boy Scouts position, and arguing the city is justified in what it’s doing.

I take a bit of a conflicted position on it, in that I believe the Boy Scouts of America is wrong for excluding homosexuals and atheists from scouting, but I also think the city is wrong for punishing this particular troop because of the backwards policies promulgated by the national organization.  The next thing you know, they’ll be punishing local shooting clubs because they don’t like what the NRA does… oh wait.

The kids in the Philadelphia Boy Scouts shouldn’t be made to suffer for the position of the national organization over which they have no control.  This is political grandstanding, pure and simple, and it’s shameful.  Scouting offers a lot of positive things to young boys, and in a city that’s in desperate need of giving young boys positive leadership, and keeping them out of trouble, it seems to me that this move is supremely short sighted on the part of the city politicians.

I understand their beef with the Boy Scouts of America.  I even share it.  But they are a private organization, and are free to exclude whoever they want.  The Boy Scouts are not a hate group.  They don’t preach discrimination, or notions that some people are better than others; they view homosexuality and atheism as immoral behavior and belief.  I disagree with them strongly on this matter, but that’s what the national organization has decided.  The city politicians should be free to denounce this all they want, but they shouldn’t go so far as punishing the boys of this local troop by canceling their lease.

Convention Center Boondoggle

Eric posts about a historic firehouse that’s being demolished in Philadelphia to make way for Ed & Mike’s Convention Mega Emporium.  It goes on to talk about the declining convention business.  Having just attended one of the larger conventions out there, I can’t imagine there are that many large events that make this kind of project a good investment.  Even after Philadelphia completes the expansion, I’d be doubtful that NRA would ever return of Philadelphia, given Mayor Nutter’s glowing love for the second amendment.  It’s hard to see how a city like Philadelphia can compete for convention business with a city like Las Vegas, or even a smaller city like Orlando.

John Lott on Crime in Philadelphia

He says there’s no proof that gun control solves any problems.  This is something Philadelphians desperately need to hear.  The politicians already know this, but they are hoping their constituents don’t, and as long as they can keep blaming Harrisburg, they don’t have to answer for their own failures.  Kudos for Dr. Lott for getting the message out there in our toxic media environment.

Mike Nutter Helping Guns Sales

Well, it’s often been said there has never been a better gun salesman than Bill Clinton.  Seems that Mike Nutter is doing his part too.  You see, Mayor Squidward, the more you bellow, the more we buy; the more bold and defiant we get.  You sure you want to keep doing this?

Tyrant

Harsh words from C. Scott Shields for Mayor Nutter:

NRA attorney C. Scott Shields later accused Nutter of being a “tyrant” willing to cast gun-shops owners in a false light. “To suggest that they’re engaging in unlawful trafficking of handguns is outrageous,” Shields said.

The city ultimately hopes to take this fight to a higher court to provoke reconsideration of a 1996 state Supreme Court ruling that killed the city’s last attempt at gun-control laws.

City Solicitor Shelley Smith yesterday said that she’d be ready with an appeal in a week to 10 days if Greenspan rules against the city.

Earlier in the article

Nutter said that “you don’t have to be a rocket scientist” to know some legally purchased guns are later resold to people who are prohibited from owning them.

So Nutter thinks having lost in the state legislature, he can just decree Colosimo’s and The Firing Line to be criminals?  Well, that pretty much fits the definition of tyrant if you ask me, which in ancient Greek meant a ruler who seized power without legal right.

Nutter Targeting Philly Gun Shop

Nutter is dragging Philadelphia gun shops into this now.

“These gun traffickers are not going to stop us from keeping the citizens of Philadelphia safe,” Nutter said in a news conference before an afternoon court hearing on the five laws he signed into law last month. One of them limits gun purchases to one a month in an effort to curb “straw purchases,” in which individuals buy multiple firearms for resale to felons and others forbidden to own guns.

I would be talking to a lawyer right now about a libel suit against the Mayor.  Good thing is, the lead attorney appears to hint at the possibility:

C. Scott Shields, who spent the afternoon arguing the case against the laws in a City Hall courtroom, called Nutter’s words “shocking.”

“He may be inviting separate legal action for casting Colosimo’s and the Firing Line in a false light,” Shields said. “To suggest that they’re engaged in illegal trafficking of handguns is outrageous.”

The three ring circus in that city continues.  But why isn’t Mayor Nutter talking about this?  Why isn’t the media forcing him to address it?